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		<title>By: Vineet Biju</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vineet Biju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[your every single bribe is greasing the system, making it what it is now. You are responsible for starting this chain of events which has led to such disastrous results. I think Annaji should also put some stress on stopping bribery at grass roots level. Every single drop is part of a vast ocean. Each and every bribe is encouraging future scamists that they might earn a quick buck from this activity. Please clean yourself and then go for cleaning the system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your every single bribe is greasing the system, making it what it is now. You are responsible for starting this chain of events which has led to such disastrous results. I think Annaji should also put some stress on stopping bribery at grass roots level. Every single drop is part of a vast ocean. Each and every bribe is encouraging future scamists that they might earn a quick buck from this activity. Please clean yourself and then go for cleaning the system.</p>
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		<title>By: Suvro Chatterjee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suvro Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this blogpost through indiblogger. Delightful to see that some people still think sanely, and not just &#039;trendily&#039; (which usually means not thinking at all!). I have expressed my own views in this blogpost: http://bit.ly/mWePKn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this blogpost through indiblogger. Delightful to see that some people still think sanely, and not just &#8216;trendily&#8217; (which usually means not thinking at all!). I have expressed my own views in this blogpost: <a href="http://bit.ly/mWePKn" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/mWePKn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Surya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you..</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddhartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 17:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sip it carefully, try to get the taste &amp; flavour within, if you can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sip it carefully, try to get the taste &amp; flavour within, if you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Pranjal</title>
		<link>http://www.gingerchai.com/2011/04/11/india-against-corruption-are-we-really-against-it/comment-page-1/#comment-77600</link>
		<dc:creator>Pranjal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 17:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ki dada, ki korcho tumi. same comment copy paste korcho sobai article te- bhalo kotha na re dada. The same comment is there on internet at least 10-11 times :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ki dada, ki korcho tumi. same comment copy paste korcho sobai article te- bhalo kotha na re dada. The same comment is there on internet at least 10-11 times <img src='http://www.gingerchai.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siddhartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 16:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of the communities in India (such as Bengali), are succumbed in &#039;Culture of Poverty&#039;(a theory introduced by an American anthropologist Oscar Lewis), irrespective of class or economic strata, lives in pavement or apartment. Nobody is at all ashamed of the deep-rooted corruption, decaying general quality of life, worst Politico-administrative system, weak mother language, continuous absorption of common space (mental as well as physical, both). We are becoming fathers &amp; mothers only by self-procreation, mindlessly &amp; blindfold.  Simply depriving their(the children) fundamental rights of a decent, caring society, fearless &amp; dignified living. Do not ever look for any other positive alternative behaviour (values) to perform human way of parenthood, i.e. deliberately co-parenting of those children those are born out of ignorance, real poverty. All of us are being driven only by the very animal instinct. If the Bengali people ever be able to bring that genuine freedom (from vicious cycle of &#039;poverty&#039;) in their own life/attitude, involve themselves in &#039;Production of Space’(Henri Lefebvre), at least initiate a movement by heart, decent &amp; dedicated Politics will definitely come up.
- Siddhartha Bandyopadhyay, 16/4, Girish Banerjee Lane, Howrah-711101.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the communities in India (such as Bengali), are succumbed in &#8216;Culture of Poverty&#8217;(a theory introduced by an American anthropologist Oscar Lewis), irrespective of class or economic strata, lives in pavement or apartment. Nobody is at all ashamed of the deep-rooted corruption, decaying general quality of life, worst Politico-administrative system, weak mother language, continuous absorption of common space (mental as well as physical, both). We are becoming fathers &amp; mothers only by self-procreation, mindlessly &amp; blindfold.  Simply depriving their(the children) fundamental rights of a decent, caring society, fearless &amp; dignified living. Do not ever look for any other positive alternative behaviour (values) to perform human way of parenthood, i.e. deliberately co-parenting of those children those are born out of ignorance, real poverty. All of us are being driven only by the very animal instinct. If the Bengali people ever be able to bring that genuine freedom (from vicious cycle of &#8216;poverty&#8217;) in their own life/attitude, involve themselves in &#8216;Production of Space’(Henri Lefebvre), at least initiate a movement by heart, decent &amp; dedicated Politics will definitely come up.<br />
- Siddhartha Bandyopadhyay, 16/4, Girish Banerjee Lane, Howrah-711101.</p>
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		<title>By: pradeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>pradeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mere ko currept high court justice se bacha lo vo mujhe mar dega aap dekhana vo mujhe sacha nahi bolne dega 7737428807]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mere ko currept high court justice se bacha lo vo mujhe mar dega aap dekhana vo mujhe sacha nahi bolne dega 7737428807</p>
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		<title>By: pradeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>pradeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rajasthan high court currept justice vinit kothari ko nyay ke pad se hatao ye bhu maphiya ban gaya hai aur logo ki jamine hathiya raha hai.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rajasthan high court currept justice vinit kothari ko nyay ke pad se hatao ye bhu maphiya ban gaya hai aur logo ki jamine hathiya raha hai.</p>
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		<title>By: Mani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 06:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are we forced to bribe because in principal we ourselves are not that confident of our stand. A battle against bribe is a battle and like all battles , if you enter into it , you hae to stick by it or perish. Some where along the lines are we afraid to say No because we are not courageous enough to stand upto them or maybe we know our defense isn&#039;t strong enough. let me give you my example-
When we had gone to submit the papers for Passport application, the counter personnel refused to accept it saying that we haven&#039;t mentioned the right pincode. We were shocked because that was what we had been using it but because we didn&#039;t have the confidence we came back that day. Next day we again proceeded there armed with the print outs of India Posts posal codes which showed us to be right. The personnel again refused, but this time I dug my heels. He shouted, threatened, but I refused to budge showing the list and properly told him that if you are rejecting the application, then just give it in WRITING and I will go back. He was in the wrong and after a short while he gave in, because he was in the wrong. The first stage was finally done.
Then when the police came for verification and we had to present the original documents to them, we realised to our horror that my MiL had misplaced her age proof. (happens in old age) The police just said that it was needed and if not presented they will have to send a negative report. Now tell me were they wrong when they said so? Ok We were a decent family, the age proof was definitely somewhere , but were the police wrong when they said they had to follow procedure? We could have waited or faced rejection and reapplied honorably, but as you say, we want everything easy- so out came the wallet. They did not have to even ask. 
So now can I say that I was forced to pay a bribe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we forced to bribe because in principal we ourselves are not that confident of our stand. A battle against bribe is a battle and like all battles , if you enter into it , you hae to stick by it or perish. Some where along the lines are we afraid to say No because we are not courageous enough to stand upto them or maybe we know our defense isn&#8217;t strong enough. let me give you my example-<br />
When we had gone to submit the papers for Passport application, the counter personnel refused to accept it saying that we haven&#8217;t mentioned the right pincode. We were shocked because that was what we had been using it but because we didn&#8217;t have the confidence we came back that day. Next day we again proceeded there armed with the print outs of India Posts posal codes which showed us to be right. The personnel again refused, but this time I dug my heels. He shouted, threatened, but I refused to budge showing the list and properly told him that if you are rejecting the application, then just give it in WRITING and I will go back. He was in the wrong and after a short while he gave in, because he was in the wrong. The first stage was finally done.<br />
Then when the police came for verification and we had to present the original documents to them, we realised to our horror that my MiL had misplaced her age proof. (happens in old age) The police just said that it was needed and if not presented they will have to send a negative report. Now tell me were they wrong when they said so? Ok We were a decent family, the age proof was definitely somewhere , but were the police wrong when they said they had to follow procedure? We could have waited or faced rejection and reapplied honorably, but as you say, we want everything easy- so out came the wallet. They did not have to even ask.<br />
So now can I say that I was forced to pay a bribe?</p>
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		<title>By: R-A-J</title>
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		<dc:creator>R-A-J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 06:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whether one is BPL or IPL, nobody wants to give away money..its for the convenience factor for which people grease palms..... yesterday, a friend of mine said he paid 500 bucks to some gov officer to bring his file to the top of the heap; if he didn&#039;t pay, he&#039;d had to wait for another week...  the common man is more bothered about this greasing of palms for gov officials to do their legitimate jobs rather than the crores siphoned off by a Raja... sure, you can say No to corruption, but would you want to waste your time waiting, when &#039;an amount&#039; can get things rolling.  The common man is merely reacting to a corrupt system - he doesn&#039;t wanna pay, but if he doesn&#039;t, things just don&#039;t move. The support for Hazare was more on the hope of bringing out a bill that could cleanse the system so that we don&#039;t have to pay to get things done.

Nobody wants to feed the corrupt; but if thats the only way out, what else can be done?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether one is BPL or IPL, nobody wants to give away money..its for the convenience factor for which people grease palms&#8230;.. yesterday, a friend of mine said he paid 500 bucks to some gov officer to bring his file to the top of the heap; if he didn&#8217;t pay, he&#8217;d had to wait for another week&#8230;  the common man is more bothered about this greasing of palms for gov officials to do their legitimate jobs rather than the crores siphoned off by a Raja&#8230; sure, you can say No to corruption, but would you want to waste your time waiting, when &#8216;an amount&#8217; can get things rolling.  The common man is merely reacting to a corrupt system &#8211; he doesn&#8217;t wanna pay, but if he doesn&#8217;t, things just don&#8217;t move. The support for Hazare was more on the hope of bringing out a bill that could cleanse the system so that we don&#8217;t have to pay to get things done.</p>
<p>Nobody wants to feed the corrupt; but if thats the only way out, what else can be done?</p>
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