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Kalki Avatar and Mohammed

Other day i came across a community topic relating Kalki Avatar and Mohammed . Many points made to argue that Mohammed is indeed the Kalki Avatar mentioned in the Hindu scriptures. If one is determined , we can corelate any two incidents in this world by hook or crook by selectively avoiding major faults and discrepancies and brushing away the vital points that can bust the corelation . The same is what those arguing for the theory Muhammed is Kalki Avatar.

I have a simple basic answer to refute the silly theory put forward by those who corelate .

According to Islam and as per the words of Muhammed , He is the last prophet send by Allah , the God. Simpler terms , Muhammed is no God but the messenger of God .

Lets see about  Kalki Avatar according to hindu scriptures :

Acording to Srimad Bhagavatam , Chapter  SB 12.2.17 :

Lord Vishnu — the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the spiritual master of all moving and nonmoving living beings, and the Supreme Soul of all — takes birth to protect the principles of religion and to relieve His saintly devotees from the reactions of material work.

The Supreme God , Lord Vishnu , himselves manifests as Kalki Avatar in the Kali yuga . Like the previous manifestation of Krishna , Ram etc , Kalki avatar is the direct manifestation of Supreme God and not a messenger of God or a Rishi.

So Supreme God = Lord Vishnu = Kalki Avatar.

This is against the basic tenet of Islam in which Muhammed is a messenger of Allah and not Allah Himself. If any muslim has to argue that Muhammed is Kalki Avatar , he / she is going against his own religious scripture and Quran.

Anyways my personal opinion is Muhammed , Jesus , Guru nanak are all one of the millions of Rishis world had seen , has seen , will seen.

Hare Krishna – Let Peace and better sense prevail in this world.

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15 comments

  1. Priyabrata

    Well,according to Hindu belief,i.e, reincarnation of Supreme Soul, the Supreme Soul(Brahman) takes incarnation in different Yugas to save humanity against the rising unrighteousness. So, in Kaliyuga Kalki Avtaar is none other than the Supreme Soul himself.

    But, according to Islamic beliefs, Allah doesn’t reincarnate to spread His message rather He sends His Apostoles or Messengers or Prophets to spread His message. In Quran, it is mentioned that Allah has sent messengers to every nation or humanity and Prophet Mohammed is His last Messenger. It is also mentioned that there were 1,25000 prophets sent to earth but only 25 names are mentioned in Quran.

    So, muslims believe that there has been prophets sent to india to spread Allah’s message. And they have found some striking resemblances in Kalki’s birth description and alsoProphet Mohammed’s.

    So,according to hindu belief of reincarnation Prophet Mohammed can’t be Kalki Avtaar since in Hindu belief God Himself reincarnates in human form. But if you reject the reincarnation belief,like the muslims have done, then there can be a possibility.

  2. http://xpresscoffee.wordpress.com

    Priyabrata , “If” and “buts” can change anything in this world. When our religious scriptures have clearly mentioned about the concept of supreme God and His manifestations , Muslims cant mis quote it and make a “if” and rejections the incarnation belief. If we keep doing this kinda “ifs” anything can be related or discarded in this world. And if you have to do this its similar to the claim of Tajmahal as Tejomahalaya , Kaaba as Shiva temple , Ahmedias claim of their spritual leader as the messenger of Allah.

    If muslims claim Kalki avatar as their Mohammed . Fine . its their belief. But if they try to justify their claim from vedas . Sorry its an utter farce and utter misquote going against the tenet of their own religion .

  3. Priyabrata

    **********But if you reject the reincarnation belief,like the muslims have done, then there can be a possibility.************

    Hey, you mistook it. By you mean i was refering to those who don’t believe in Reincarnation beliefs i.e Muslims.

    Anyways, I am not justifying whether they are right or wrong in their findings rather i just tried to reason out what could be the possibility of their findings.

  4. Sambitesh

    lol theists :P :D

    Chasing illusions eh :P
    But then it is our Illusion that creates the world ….

    “I have realized that the past and future are real illusions, that they exist in the present, which is what there is and all there is.”

    Alan Watts

  5. Hellogoodbye AKA Butter AKA Lucky

    Itz a oldest technique how to hijack a religion and make theirs. Christianity done it several times before with many pagan religion.

  6. Danish

    Dear Brother .
    May Peace, Mercy & Blessing of Allah on to u.
    U have written that ” Muhammed is no God but the messenger of God ” . But Niether Allah has mentioned nor Mohammad(SAW) has told that ” I m the God of Messenger”.
    U have misquoeted urself,If u have any reference then produce b’coz, Allah has said in the Quran(2:111) that “Produce ur proof if u r truthful.”

  7. Mr.R

    Hi Danish ,

    Thanks for passing by my blog and writing comment. Can u tell me where have i misquoted ? Please elaborate your comment.

  8. Arjun Pundit

    Lord Krishna was an AVATAR-GOD himself- and so would KALKI be. Lord Krishna had all knwoledge- he DID NOT NEED ANGELS TO TELL HIM WHAT IS WHAT.- as was the depndency of Mohammed saheb

    So here you could see the claer difference. Also Mohammed saheb- himself was not aware at all of Lord Krishana- his predecessor?? ?What a joke man :).

    He was aware of jews and christians- as he lived with them and “pagans”.

    Also KALKI – has been predicted at end of Kalyuga- Mohammed was born in GHOR kalyuga….I mean in the middle of it.

    Beware and take care!!!!

    Arjun Pundit…

  9. muddleheaded

    Well I guess this post has raised many controversies and questions… which are in my opinion are useless… even IF[thu i dont believe it] Muhammad [PBUH] has something to do with Kalki or vice versa… how does THAT effect US as human beings? why we have to get in to a discussion like this? I dont get it… we are to keep faith in whatever we want… Like I am a muslim so I should practice Islam instead of browsing history and if somebody is Hindu then practice hinduism and follow the teachings of your Gods and other prominent figures of Hinduism…

    BUT to conclude and clarify certain things written on this page:
    1. According to “Vishnu Purana”, Kalki will be born in the family of Vishnuyasha, an eminent brahmana of Shambhala village. While Muhammad[PBUH] was born in an Arab family which is very much evident from history.

    2. In Islam there is NO concept of reincarnation except at the day of judgment. Islam doesn’t believe in “Awagon”.

    3. Arjun above is very right. If Muhammad[PBUH] was aware of his predecessor then why didn’t he ever say it?

    4. And Mr. Danish I don’t know who you are? and I doubt your knowledge of Islam, even I doubt you being a muslim… Its written everywhere that “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad[PBUH] is the messenger of God”… in fact this is the very first thing which you are required to say and to believe before you are or you can declare yourself a muslim… I salute the owner of this Blog here that he has at least good knowledge of Islam and has NOT misquoted anything.

    5. Ms. Priyabrata just F.Y.I or rather correction there were 1,24,000 messengers of God.

    6. As there are 1,24,000 messengers who have been guiding human race since ages and only few of them are well known to the world now. So having said that, I believe every religion in the world including Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism, and Jainism or any other religion MUST have a prophet. The book i.e. Veda must have been some heavenly book of which WE don’t know. We know only those things which have been told to us by God in his other books namely Quran, Bible etc….

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  10. RAJESH KUMAR

    “JAI SHRI RAM”—- HERE I WOULD LIKE TO TELL ALL THE MUSLIM FOLLOWERS AND SPECIALLY THAT” ZAKIR NAYAK”, WAT HE SAYS THAT MOHAMMED IS MENTIONED IN THE HINDU SCRIPTURES , YES IT IS TRUE THAT IN BHAVISHYA PURAN (IN THE PRATISARGA PARV) WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST SACRED RELIGIOUS OF HINDUS IT IS MENTIOND THAT THE MOHAMMED WAS THE INCARNATION OF THE DEMON “TRIPURASUR” WHO WAS BURNT BY LORD SHIVA IN THE PAST. AND BEING A HINU DEVOTEE I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THIS FACT ,BECAUSE HINDUSIM IS NOT ONLY A RELIGION BUT HINDUSIM IS ITSELF A TRUTH. IT HAS BEEN CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE BHAVISHYA PURAN ,
    I ASK TO ZAKIR AND ALL MUSLIM DEVOTEES THAT IF THEY BELIEVE ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF MOHAMMED ACCORDING TO THE BHAVISHYA PURAN, SO WHY DONT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE MOHAMMED WAS A INCARNATION OF THE DEMON “TRIPURASUR”

    IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT SO YOU CUD SEARCH ON GOOGLE SEARCHING TOPICS OF “BHAVISHYA PURAN”

  11. avinash lal das

    mere hisaab se kalki avtaar ek satya hai jo kalyug ke ant me hoga jab is dharti se ganga virakt ho jaayegi paapiyon ka bol chaal badh jaayega hamaare desh ke raja matlab neta wohi desh ko barbaad karenge tab hoga kalki avtaar ye avtaar dharm ki punaah sthapna karne ke liye hoga kyunki kalki hame un saadhuon se bachayenge jo dharm ke aar par wo sab kuch kar jaayenge jo saadhuon ko nahi karna chahiye haan lekin jab kaliyug ka ant karke satyug ki sthaapna karne ke liye kalik agrasar honge to mahabharat tatha ramayan se bhi bada ek yudh hoga jisme kalik (vishnu) koapna saara avtaar ek saath lena hoga kyunki is yug ka daanav jo hoga woh raavan kansh se bhi adhik shaktisaali hai aur uska janam ho chooka hai uska naam akaalmanushya (yeh)mera kaalpnik naam hai haan lekin yeh adrishya hai jo in paapon ka mukhya kaaran hai haanjab kaliki ka janam hoga us se 5 saal pehle ye kisi mata ke garbh se janam lega aur woh rajniti me aayega aur uske baad kalik ji aayenge aur phir dono me ghor sangraam hoga . waise jab maine ye padha ki muslim maan rahe ki prophet kalyug ke aakhri avtaar to maine socha ki unka maanna thik hai par kaliki avtaar satyahain jab unka avtaar hoga tab prophet,jesus,aur sai baba jaise shaanti ke manushya roopi doot unka saath denge jis tarah ramayan me vaanar sena ne ram ka saath diya tha aur is baar kalik ka avtaar ka saath unke ye teen doot(prophet mohammad ,jesus,sai baba) unke saath milkar dharm ki punah sthapna karne mai unki madad karenge aur naya satyug ki sthapna karne mai unki madad karenge.

  12. DEYANIRA AVENDAÑO REBOLLEDO

    estimados señores naci el 26 de abril de 1949 a las 8.10 de la mañana, tengo actualmente 60 años y represento el DIOS ACTUAL EN TODOS LOS CREDOS O RELIGIONES

    SOLO QUE EL EGO DE LOS HOMBRES NO PERMITE QUE UNA MUJER SEA DIOS PESE A SERLO, COMO EFECTIVAMENTE LO HE MOSTRADO ANTE PRACTICANTES DE DIFERENTES RELIGIONES, HE DEBIDO SOPORTAR LA DESPERSONALIZACION COMO DICE EL APOCALIPSIS EL MONSTRUO DE LAS SIETE CABEZAS Y DENTRO DEL TEMPLO DE DIOS ESTA LA RAMERA DE BABILONIA O EL GENIO HUMANO DEMONIO O EL DEMONIO, AUN VENCIENDOLOS EN DIFERENTES FORMAS NO HA SIDO POSIBLE OBTENER EL RESPETO POR EL TRABAJO QUE VENGO A HACER, DE OFENSA PASO A INSULTO Y DE AHI A VENGANZA Y CASTIGO , TODO ESTO SOLO ME MUESTRA QUE REALMENTE NO HAY EN ESTE MOMENTO EN EL MUNDO CONDICIONES PARA SALVAR MAS DE LOS 144 QUE SE DIJO SERIAN SALVADOS, ES DOLOROSO VER LAS REACCIONES DEL HOMBRE ACTUAL CONTRA DIOS PERO EN FIN DEBERE SOPORTAR CON ESTOICISMO CONJUNTAMENTE CON MIS HIJOS QUIENES IGUAL ME ACOMPAÑAN EN ESTO CUANTO DEBA SOPORTAR ES INEVITABLE SENTIR HORROR CON TODO LO VIVIDO Y LA BAJA CONDICION DE LA ACTUAL HUMANIDAD

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    Its in spanish ! And i invite someone to translate it ! :)
    - Mr.R

  13. Prakash

    what I understand personally is that the last incarnation of Lord Vishnu so far is Chaitanya mahaprabhu who appeared in Bengal about 300-400 yeras ago, and by his lilas he proved that was himself Lord Krishna. He taught humanity the mahamantra Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare. All the avatars of Lord Vishnu have been born in India and there is no doubt that Kaiki Avatar will again be born in India at the end of the Kali Yuga. If Prophet Mohamed would have been Kalki then there would have been no need for the appearance of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. Kalki would be the last incarnation of Lord Vishnu according to the scriptures, after which a new humanity will starts and will be the start of the satyuga. The author of this article is simply creating confusion in the mind of hindus and I doubt the authority on which he has relied to make his claim. Prophet Mohamed is the last prophet of his lineage. And finally an avatar is different from a prophet which is obvious from the different comments.

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